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Jennatalia
29-07-2008, 02:36 PM
I'm looking for some advice. Actually, I'm hoping some of you will disagree with me because I want to get as much perspective as possible before I make a decision. Anyway, what would you do in the follow scenario?

Say you have this good friend, the convicted felon. This friend has been convicted for several different crimes, has already had a bunch of DUI's, and is currently on probation and taking alcohol classes. Now, I'll preface this by saying this person has been making some efforts to get their life back on track, they (had) a good steady job, and seemed to be trying to get their shit together - for the most part. Nonetheless, this friend still drinks a bit but seems to be doing better overall. Moving right along...said friend shows up at your house one random Tuesday evening. He didn't call first, which is unusual. It was lucky he even caught you, as apparently he was waiting in the parking lot when you got home. As you park your car and start heading towards your entrance, you hear a car horn beeep beeeep beeeeping behind you obnoxiously. At first you don't even plan to turn around, because you managed to grab a close parking spot that you think the car in front of you had planned to snag.

Finally, as the horn continues to blare, you turn around with your best 'what bitch' face and see your friend sitting with a big grin just honk honk honking the hell away. He proceeds to explain that he had a few drinks with coworkers at a nearby bar, and just decided to stop over while he was in the area. After going inside, talking a bit, and showing him some photos and computer stuff, his normally non-smoking self insists on smoking your cigarettes. He's usually VERY obnoxious even sober, so his behavior outside of the smoking wasn't TOO abnormal. He doesn't seem belligerently drunk when he leaves your house, but then again you're not paying much attention either.

The rest of the next week you hear nothing from your friend. Eventually, you receive a call from his lawyer explaining that he is in jail for getting a DUI after he left your house the other night. The lawyer explains that he refused to take a breathalyser, and that he was in the car alone without any open bottles. He wants you to come to court and testify that your friend wasn't drinking that night.

Would you do it? Okay it's too hard to keep trying to tell the story that way but essentially... your friend has been acting shady since this point when you have contacted them. They will not discuss directly their drinking that night, and even are dishonestly implying that they did not drink at all while they throw you guilt trips about being good friend and testifying for them. Would you "be a good friend" and testify under oath that "we were not drinking that night" even if you felt that your friend was already intoxicated when they arrived at your house? Because I personally don't agree with drinking and driving, I take every measure possible not to ever do it myself, and therefore I have a hard time defending the behavior of someone who not only won't be honest with "his friends" about what he is doing, but is obviously unable to "learn his own lessons" and control his behavior by not putting himself in this position in the first place?

It sure seems to like friend or not, bailing someone out just to save them the responsibility of not having to face the consequences of their actions seems like an immoral way to have to show my loyalty to my friend. Do you agree? Or do I need to get off my moral high horse and help out the homeboy? Yes, this turned into a total rant, sorry. Hopefully it makes some sense, hahahah.

AND WHILE I'M AT IT...How the heck do I get my post to format correctly? When I space it out it just smashes everything together in one big clusterfuck of a post. Do I actually have to go through the effort of writing some stupid html or bb code crap to get the 'enter' key to space my shit out? EW.

§têllå
29-07-2008, 02:49 PM
Wow. I read that.

Can't you get in trouble for allowing him to leave your house drunk? Even though he wasn't drinking while there?

Jennatalia
29-07-2008, 02:52 PM
LOL impressive element. thanks ;) That's a damn good question, I didn't even think of that. I'm going to have to look into it, I'm not sure? I mean, he's a consenting adult and he's like 3 times my size so in theory, I couldn't really stop him if he wanted to do it. I didn't try either, but shit. I have no idea.. Anyone else know about that?

Rico Suave
29-07-2008, 02:57 PM
Will he be forced to get help if he is convicted?

Jennatalia
29-07-2008, 03:09 PM
Hard to say... I'm not sure how they could. They've already had him on an ankle monitor as a result of his drinking, and as I mentioned - they've tried putting him into classes. I doubt they'd put him in some sort of full blown rehab facility, but he hasn't been straight forward with me about what will happen next if he is convicted again. I doubt they will be able to "force him" too much more than they already have, though.

LateNiteTV
29-07-2008, 03:09 PM
lol dont testify for him. make him learn his damn lesson. obviously he hasnt thus far. i know that in california if you get 3 duis its an automatick 4months in state prison. tell him to suck it up and face the consequences.

SRsee
29-07-2008, 05:39 PM
You can testify that he was not drinking AT your hose and not be lying on the stand .. if you were to say "well he appeared intoxicated" that would be "heresay" and thrown out .. because you are not classified as an expert".

It's up to you on if you want to testify, but if you do .. don't say he was not drinking .. say he did not drink while on you rproperty. Otherwise you are committing perjury, and I don't reccomend doing that.

SheyGrl
29-07-2008, 08:10 PM
Is this person REALLY a friend worth all of this? I wouldn't testify just simply because it seems like he really needs to learn his lesson and needs to learn it hard. It sucks thinking that way about friends, but he's got a problem obviously and can't learn from it.

BUT like SRsee said you can testify he wasn't drinking in your presence. That's about it. The nice thing is you wouldn't be lying.

Rico Suave
29-07-2008, 08:11 PM
Conversely, you could tell the court that he was pounding beers back and shooting up heroin in your bathroom. :thumbup:

PerroGrande
29-07-2008, 08:29 PM
I would say that I never saw him drinking. But, that doesn't mean that he wasn't drinking. It doesn't matter what you say though. He didn't have to take a breath test when he got pulled over, but he by law had to submit to an alcohol test at the police station. If he refused to do so, they are going to throw the book at him anyway.

GI BRO
29-07-2008, 09:37 PM
He is not going to stop any way. If he gets off, next time he might wreck and kill some one.

Just sayin.

Elle Diabla
29-07-2008, 10:10 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckk that. This guy isn't respectful of anything, including his friends. To even think to ask a friend to LIE UNDER OATH is just plain overstepping. You know he was drinking. He's just trying to get off.

Since he has such a terrible history, his ass needs to learn, somehow, that he can't keep drinking and driving!! He obviously has no idea how lucky he is that he hasn't killed anyone during one of his drunken escapades.

Sorry to be blunt, (but you know I am), but he sounds like a fucking clueless tool. Going though life shitting on every single one of his friends, asking them to cover his ass for the billionth time.

Let him learn. You don't have to be a huge bitch to him when you decline. You could just say, you don't feel comfortable lying for him. That's it, plain and simple. It;s your human right to do what YOU feel comfortable with. And certainly, being friends with someone would never entail this sort of lying cover up bullshit, so the ass can keep getting in trouble.

Elle Diabla
29-07-2008, 10:13 PM
BTW, I fixeded your paragraph earlier. ;)

Jennatalia
31-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Thanks for fixing my paragraph! I thought my browser at home was just magic, haha. Great advice and thoughts from all of you guys. I really appreciate it. (Still haven't emailed dude back about it yet, nor have I heard from the pathetic excuse for a lawyer either. But ya'll said just what I needed to hear.)

Janebiotch
04-08-2008, 08:07 PM
i would probably help my friend out

Rico Suave
05-08-2008, 08:24 PM
i would probably help my friend out

We should totally be friends.

CrazyGerman
12-08-2008, 12:19 PM
He is not going to stop any way. If he gets off, next time he might wreck and kill some one.

Just sayin.


My thoughts too. I hate drunk driver...as they also endanger others. I could not forgive myself for helping a friend get away with this, just to get into the car again drunk and kill someone innocent.